Less than a year after she began her journey with ayahuasca, Mee-ok (then Mandy) was interviewed by Chris Ryan for his podcast Tangentially Speaking. And the rest is history.

The interview starts at 21:40. Listen below or download here.

“A Korean kid in the American South, adopted by people who probably shouldn’t have, lesbian, super-smart Harvard student, stand-up comic, diagnosed with an incurable disease at 30 … Mandy has been there and there and there and back. Please join us for this powerful, heartfelt conversation about belonging, family, and that familiar feeling that you’re getting better and dying at the same time.”

For more great conversations with Mee-ok’s friend Chris, please visit chrisryanphd.com.